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Micah Dubinko

Mon, 24 Oct 2005

Google Print thought experiment

Take this ZDnet article, and I'll quote a bit of it, replacing "books" with "web sites":

But there's a big catch: Many of those web sites are protected by copyrights, and Google is requiring copyright holders to opt out of the scanning process if they don't want their web sites to be searchable.

That's raised plenty of hackles among publishers, who argue that they--not Google--should control who can see and search the web sites. And last week, five leading publishers filed suit against Google to stop the program.

"It's a commercial use" of the web sites and therefore a copyright violation, said Ralph Oman, a lawyer and former Register of Copyrights for the U.S. Copyright office. "This is masquerading as an educational use (which wouldn't be an obvious violation), but from Google's point of view this is a money-making exercise."

But not every copyright expert is so sure Google is on thin ice. Truth is, there's no consensus in the legal community on this one-of-a-kind case. The fight comes down to a simple question: Is the search king setting itself up to be a copyright violator of epic proportions, or is it a champion of learning trying to make even the most obscure web sites readily accessible in a Web search?

Like I wrote before, this could be a lead-up to a big disappointment. But either way this case will end up being more important than many now realize. -m

posted at: 23:48 | under: 2005-10 | 2 comment(s)



I'm of the opinion that Google is well within their rights but that was a pretty unfair rewrite. Web sites are conceived of as media elements in an open network crawlable by anyone, books are commonly understood as single unconnected elements.

Question: How does one opt out of being indexed on the web, and how does one opt out of having the books indexed? Are these two methods significantly different?
Perhaps these are somewhat snarky questions but the answers do show that there is some difference between these two things you would like to imply are not different at all.
Posted by bryan at Wed Oct 26 01:05:17 2005

bryan,

So yeah, this was a 'thought experiment', not asserted dogma. That said, there are striking similarities between the two. I haven't seen anyone argue from the standpoint of copyright law the differences.

Things like the amount of work or up-front research,  implied connectedness or distribution, or opt-out processes are all factors to weigh. But will these ultimately concern the courts as they set this potentially important precedent? -m
Posted by Micah Dubinko at Wed Oct 26 09:43:34 2005


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